Material alternatives

Hi! I am struggling because I’ve just started with the membership/classes and don’t feel confident enough to make substitutions. I was hoping that the materials for the classes/projects would be doable, but the ones Matt uses are very expensive.

I would start a video and then realize I didn’t have the correct color paper, so I’d stop and order it. Ugh…this happened a few times before I started looking into the pastel classes I wanted to do. At this point I’m very discouraged.

Can anyone share their experience using alternative materials to give me hope and some encouragement? :zany_face::slightly_smiling_face:

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Hello Theresa,

First welcome to the VI. I’ve been here going on 5 years and have found that Matt is really flexible. Under the lessons you can email to Matt and ask him a question or you can visit the live class Wednesday nights and ask him questions in the chat.

I know about the stopping to buy everything and wanting to try every lesson out of excitement. Expense was a real issue for me. Well it still is. Soon you will realize that you can make adjustments on brands, paper, even paper color. Anything to get started.

I found that it really helped me to start with the 25 days to better drawing graphite lessons. This courses really is a confidence builder. At least for me it was.

I am glad you asked this question andhopefully others can give you better advice.

Again, Welcome to the Virtual Instructor membership and forum.

Teri(w 1r) There are two Ter(r)i’s

If you are talking about the PastelMat paper you are correct. A good paper to learn on is canson Mi-tienes paper. This one Matt also likes and uses in some of the older courses.

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Hello Teresa,
It is pretty normal to feel a bit overwhelmed with all the materials (and their prices). But even thou Matt is using “the best of the best”, it does not mean you can’t do the drawings with something more affordable.

When I started to draw, I remember I followed one pastel drawing of a bird on Gettin’ sketchy (Matt’s and Ashley’s youtube channel). It was one of my first drawings, and my materials were the cheapest you could find. I had one “drawing notebook” that cost me 1 euro and some pastels for kids.
I finished the drawing and I was quite happy (mostly because it was colorful :grinning_face: ), but of course, it looked different than Matt’s drawing. My paper didn’t allow me to use as many layers as his, and my pastels looked and behaved a bit differently as well, but well, I did what I could at that time.
Later on, after a few months, I learnt that there is a difference between oil pastels and soft pastels, and I realized that Matt was using soft pastels while I used oil pastels. No wonder it was quite different :sweat_smile:

What I wanted to say is that, at the end of the day, the most important thing is to make a mark on paper.
Don’t get me wrong, I agree that quality materials will make a big difference, but if you can’t get it all, well, get it step by step and try to use what you can.

If I were you and I could choose what to invest in, between paper and material, I would probably invest in paper.
You are mentioning pastel classes, in that case, I would get one quality paper and use it in every pastel project (looks like you may have bought some already) and I would get some lower quality pastels. But that is only my personal opinion.
I would do the same for watercolor, I would get 100% cotton paper and some lower quality colors (winson&newton cotman is usually mentioned as a good alternative, I saw it here in Europe for about 20euros, when discounted it goes to 13euros). This would be if I wanted to follow some longer projects from the classes/lessons. If the paper would be still too expensive for me, I would just get some cheaper watercolor paper. And yes, it may behave a bit differently, but at least you will be painting.
If you are a complete beginner, maybe it is even better to get something cheaper first, so you don’t feel bad for messing it up :).

If you are open to different mediums, you could as well start with pencils, charcoal or with pen and ink.
I found these are most cheapest materials. You could check more lessons, what would feel the most appealing to you and go for that.

For a pencil drawing you would usually need maybe 3-4 pencils (HB, 2B, 4B, 6B), you don’t need a whole set and then some eraser (a kneaded eraser), and some good paper. This won’t cost so much and you can make some realistic drawings as well.
Charcoal is usually cheap as well, and I think you can mostly use the same paper as for pencils.
And pen and ink, you can get pen and ink pens and you good to go with even cheap paper for a printer.

Gettin’ Sketchy is very good for shorter projects, as it takes about 1 hour and you will have some finished drawing that you created, and I think you can use really whatever material you have at home, because it is “a quick sketch”. What I mean by that is, that if you do let’s say pencil drawing in Getting sketchy, there is a limited time to finish the drawing, so you will apply a few layers and that’s it, usually whatever paper that has some tooth will do.
In some classes/lessons, where the drawing is realistic and you spend 10 hours instead of 1 hour, you need a bit better paper, because you would want to apply lots of layers during that time. That’s why I think the paper makes a bigger difference than a brand of pencils in this case.
This is a very general opinion, because there are just too many things to speak about when speaking about different mediums, and while in one medium it does not have to matter as much (pencils, pen and ink..), the other can make a huge difference (for example color pencils, that is another world, where brand really matters).

Now, this is a long post, I hope you didn’t get lost and you are still here :grin:
I am a beginner, so maybe somebody who has more experience can help you more.
You can as well tell us if there is a specific medium you want to do and if you are in Europe or US, people can maybe give you some brands that are cheaper but still good to use for the specific projects at the beginning.

Anyway, I hope you got something from this message and you will start creating some art, mostly with joy and without pressure. After you will learn what you really like, you can start slowly investing in materials.
Sometimes we can be stuck with all the things we need before we start that we forget to actually start.

Good luck with your journey and ask more questions if you have some :upside_down_face:

Lucy

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Dear Teresa,

Welcome to TVI - we are all here to learn and enjoy this family.

Like Teri, I am a member for about five years now and started more or less as a very beginner and I totally agree with what Teri and Lucy already have written.

My artistic journey started with graphite and pen & ink drawings. I followed almost each and every lesson Matt offers. This material is cheap, and you can get away with less expensive paper. Throughout the years, I learned about myself that I am fond of very good quality. I just love being able to layer my colors or try out new mediums. There is still a lot material that I have not got yet, like oil paints or oil pastels.

I also set a goal each year, work on it, but would allow myself some freedom to explore. This year, I wanted to get better in realistic drawings and try out gouache. Next year, I want to work on my sketching skills, as I always tend to get wrapped in details.

You don’t need colors to achieve increadible great art work. Maybe you would like to see some very professional pieces of dear of Maki (@Maki ), who creates wonderful drawings by just using a Zebra pen (yes! Ballpen!).

When you don’t know, if you really like a medium or a brand, you can always get away with just black, grey and white. Value is more important than color, and all colors can be translated into a value on the grey scale. This way, you can try out different papers and mediums without spending too much money.

Sometimes, I am following a lesson by switching my monitor to grey no matter what medium Matt or Ashley are using in their lessons. This is also very helpful to check your full range of values, when you are using colors.

Please feel free to ask Matt & Ashley about substitutions. You can also ask here for specific mediums you would like to work with, and we will help you out with good alternatives.

Maybe, you would like to join tonight’s Live Classes?

Buddy

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I am like you I can’t afford all the fancy stuff . So I do use what ever on hand and most off the time it comes out ok . I also have made my self a wish list on the computer and I made a jar to collect all the loose change form the day and I count up the change every few months and then I treat myself to something on my list , also I have the list so family or friends can see it for gift ideas .hang in there it will all work out and my idea is the more you practice and do the better you will get and I can honestly say the people on this platform are the best and they are here to help and encourage , don’t be ashamed or afraid to share we are all at different levels .

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Hello @TeresaTheTherapist

OMG another Teresa / Terri / Teri / Terry here at the Virtual Instructor. WELCOME!!!

I’m Teresa Robichon, but go by Terri (often referred to as Terri with 2 R’s) since there is a Teri (with 1 R) that is very active here as well.

You’ve gotten some great feedback from others so far, so I’ll just highlight a couple of things. 100% cotton paper is really useful for many things and there are a lot of brands and price ranges. Just look for that content and it will work well for most drawings.

When I started drawing years ago, I didn’t use any toned (or colored paper) so if budget is limited stick with the white for now. As a matter of fact, it wasn’t until I joined The Virtual Instructor that I first purchased toned paper.

I don’t know what media you’re interested in but pick just one or two since you’re starting out. That way you can focus your supplies, and practice, and see improvement as you continue to learn. You’ll need fewer supplies that way. Believe me, you’ll never have enough money for all the supplies you’d like to have. Start slow and focus on learning and enjoying the process.

Terri Robichon

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