Hi @siffermus
I have found that I also like that combination of watercolor underpainting with colored pencils. This is very nice. Thanks for sharing.
Terri
This is an amazing drawing. Love all the reflections in the bottles. You have captured it very beautifully.
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My latest is this 8x8 ink drawing. I used my favorite Zebra - Rubber 80 black ballpoint pen. It is drawn on Stonehenge white paper. The reference is from a Live Lesson here, but that lesson was for doing the drawing with charcoal.
Terri
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That’s an amazing old man Terri! I like how you flipped the reference from white on black to black on white. I also love the level of detail you got with just one pen!
I’m doing the Air Jordan live lesson with a blue BIC pen instead of a fine liner. Is there any way to deal with mistakes other than just ignore them? I’ve been figuring out the hard way how unforgiving pens and colored pencils are because you can’t erase them. Also do you know why you can get such difference in value with a ball pen? Is it the ink?
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Thanks for the compliment @siffermus 
Hi Lucas @MTBartist
Thanks for your kind words. To answer your question, once you’ve made a mark with ink, it’s there for good. I’ve found no fixes. Then regarding getting a range of values, I’ve only found one pen that accomplishes that. Made by Zebra, it is specifically the “Rubber 80”. You can buy them by a box of 10 from Amazon. Reasonably priced. By the way, I found out about these from another Virtual Instructor member.
Also, Matt had a recent live lesson of a church and trees using that pen. Check it out.
Terri
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fantastic and so realistic beautifully executed
Very cool Terri @robichon ! You are so patient! Very well done. Another media you mastered! 
I’ll bet ya that even the poen did not know it could do that! Wauw!!! I have got to try them. Thank you so much for sharing this.
My smallest pencil! I think I’m going to retire it. I can’t turn it in the sharpener anymore. It was a Luminance white.
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This is amazing. So much detail. The hands look like they have thrown thousands of pots; so much character.
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Holy Moley that is a tiny pencil!!!
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Hi Terri,
The church lesson was current when I joined TVI and it’s where I learned about ballpoint pens but it looked too complicated for the present time. I decided to do the Air Jordan lesson with a ballpoint pen instead. I’m using a blue BIC Cristal pen that I got at Walmart but I’ve never heard of Zebra before.
Also you said the church took you 80 hours so I think I’d rather spend that much time on my own project instead of a lesson.
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I’m just using them for the first time in the tulip drawing (my second attempt after the charcoal one)!
I really like these pencils and think it is a mixture of graphite and carbon and not as shiny as graphite alone.
Siffermus - I really like your sky from The Pastel Landscape Course you posted in March. You mentioned to have experienced some allergic reactions. Maybe wearing a FFP2 mask will help? Matt once mentioned that, if I remember correctly.
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What a wonderful Cliff Dwelling, Terri, and thanks for your additional informations. Did the ink reactivate, when working with watercolor pencils on top?
Buddy
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Hi Buddy. No the ink is permanent and doesn’t reactivate.
Terri
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Thank you - that’s great!